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MINUTES OF VALA DIRECTORS’ MEETING

SEPTEMBER 6, 2006

 

 

The meeting was called to order by President Mark Paulsen at 9:10 a.m. with 26 in attendance as follows:

 

Louise Ferris-Burt                                Bethel                                       Windsor

John Vickery                                        Burlington                                 Chittenden

Pauline Moore                                      Manchester                              Bennington

Galen E Mudgett, Jr                              Sharon                                     Windsor

Carlton E Domey                                  Cabot                                       Washington

Daphne Gratiot                         Pomfret                                    Windsor

Sandy Haas, Rep                                  Rochester                                 Windsor

Robert L Sanborn                                 Chelsea                                    Orange

Terry Knight                                         PVR

Charlene Lathrop                                  Northfield                                 Washington

Lyle K Morrison                                   Grafton                         Windham

Phyllis Newton                         Vernon                                     Windham

Joyce Scribner                                      Manchester                              Bennington

Yvonne Ruda-Welch                            Unifund

Allan Lockyer                                       Barre                                        Washington

Caroline Lockyer                                  Montpelier                                Washington

Janet Stowell                                        Thetford                                   Orange

Donna Durkee                                      Thetford                                   Orange

Noel Walker                                        Fairlee                                      Orange

Pat French                                            Randolph                                  Orange

Lois P Trenn & Guest                           Benson                         Rutland

Tom Vickery                                        Stowe                                      Lamoille

Randy Viens                                         Essex                                       Chittenden

Mark Paulsen                                       Colchester                                Chittenden

Carol Hammond                                   Vernon                                     Windham

Tambrey Vutech                                   Woodstock                              Windsor

 

A motion was made and seconded to accept the minutes of the July 12, 2006 meeting. The motion passed.

The Treasurer’s report is as follows:

 

Previous Balance                                                                      $  4,225.32

 

            Expense—Food                                                                  - 21.97     

                                                                                                    4,203.35

Dues through 9/1/2006                                                                 1,095.00

 

Balance as of 9/6/2006                                                 $  5,298.35

         (One check from 7/12 not cleared--$21.97 to St J.)

A motion was made and seconded to accept the Treasurer’s report.  The motion passed.

A motion was made and seconded to donate $25.00 to the church to cover expenses of holding the September VALA meeting there.

 

VLCT:  2007 Municipal Policy calls on the Governor and Legislature to reform current education funding laws ….one of the suggestions is to “Have the State appraise all property and notify towns of grand list values to use for school and municipal taxes.”  This would essentially eliminate the position of Lister in the State of Vermont.

This suggestion was not passed unanimously by the VLCT board—it was a 6-3 vote.

Much discussion followed as to the reasons why VLCT, who has traditionally supported local control in municipalities, would make this recommendation.  Various viewpoints were expressed and Mark asked for a vote of those present   as to VALA’s position on C1.  The vote was unanimous against the position of VLCT. The membership is encouraged to contact Steve Jeffrey with their comments and suggestions.

 

Terry Knight  PVR

Terry reported that Susan Monte is the new staff attorney, replacing Charles Merriman who recently resigned that position.  Susan has previously been associated with Downs, Rachlin.  Charles will be working with Paul Gillies’ firm.

Bob Bradford has moved to a position in the Tax Department.  Candidates have been interviewed for Bob’s position and a decision should be made by the end of the week.  One of the reasons given for Bob’s move was frustration with Microsolve.

There were comments regarding the problems many have experienced with Microsolve, including towns that by pass the state and go directly to Microsolve for upgrades and problems with the newest versions of CAMA and APEX.

 Educational offerings were sent out from PVR for the fall.  Terry is hoping to offer Mass Appraisal 101 and 102 in the spring.  She also needs commitments for the Income Approach Course.  The Mass Appraisal Course is on the State’s approved courses list for certification purposes. 

Checks have been mailed to the towns to help defray cost of courses offered by PVR. 

A suggestion was made that the math course should be offered prior to the Income Approach Course.

 

Annual Meeting:

Morning session-- Rep. Alison Clarkson who will address the issue of the land use program, and Afternoon session—Tax Commissioner, Tom Pelham on education funding.

 

Subsidized housing:  Caroline Lockyer

Major problems with the reporting of income and expenses by subsidized housing groups, with management fees being the main area of contention.  There needs to be clarification on allowed expenses in order for fairness and consistency throughout the state. 

Terry Knight said a workshop on subsidized housing will be offered in January which will be for both Listers and subsidized housing project owners/managers.

The question was raised as to whether income and expense reports have to be reviewed every year, and the answer was, that like other properties, the reports would be in effect until the next reappraisal unless substantial changes were made.

The 10% reduction for subsidized housing was discussed with a motion by Caroline for VALA to push for the elimination of the 10% reduction.  The motion was seconded and passed.

 

Summer Study:  Travel trailers—to tax or not to tax

Emily Berquist of Legislative Council has been gathering information for Ways and Means Committee on the pros and cons of taxing travel trailers.  Listers that have concerns/comments for Emily are encouraged to contact her.

 

Nominating Committee:

Tom Vickery reported that since Mark Paulsen is willing to serve another year as President, that their recommendation is to nominate Mark for President at the Annual Meeting.

Mark informed the group that while his theme for this year will be “Time for a Change,”

next year’s theme will be “Throw the Bum Out.”  In other words, this will be his last year as president of VALA.  (so he says)

 

Education:  John Vickery

VALA will be conducting two workshops at the fall MOM’s meetings:

Tom and John Vickery-- level of assessment vs. common level of assessment.

John Vickery—Subsidized housing

PVR—a panel discussion on current use

PVR—appeals to superior court

PVR—Listers Open Forum

 

Legislative:  Caroline Lockyer

The utilities issue—net book vs. fair market value—was not activated – nothing done on it

 

Exemptions:  Caroline Lockyer

The Legislature wants to form a committee to study the exemption law.

Caroline stated that her goal is to get tax exemption eligibility set at the state level, so that it would be consistent throughout the state.

 

Lister of the Year:  Mark Paulsen

Reasonable progress is being made.

 

Microsolve/CAMA:  Pauline Moore

She has met with Tom Pelham and he is aware of frustration of dealing with Microsolve.

Noel spoke about the new version and has been looking for feedback on towns that are using it.  There were many comments about the lack of communication regarding upgrades—who gets them, how does a town know there is an upgrade available, etc.  Problem regarding towns that circumvent the state and go directly to Microsolve was reiterated.  Presently, the 2006 upgrade is at IT for testing.  Microsolve does not test the upgrades—it is up to IT to test.  There is also a problem with APEX not connecting correctly with CAMA.

John suggested that the contract between Microsolve and the State be examined to see if there is any breach of contract.  The State has been aware of problems with the program, but does not want to make a change because they have too much invested with Microsolve.

 

A reminder to all that the Annual Meeting is Friday, September 15, 2006 and the next regular meeting will be held on November 1, 2006 at the Randolph Town Office building.

 

With no other business to conduct, the meeting was adjourned.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

Carol Hammond, Secretary.